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Misconception: We Offer "On-Site" Warranties*
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by Terry E. Mercer ©1997-1999
Many companies, especially mail order companies selling complete systems, offer
"On-Site" Warranties* with excellent options.
FALSE! - The majority of the time - If you don't live in a large city or within 50 miles of
one!
Fact: Be sure to read the fine print! Call the company, ask them to put the on-site
limitations in writing... in fact,
ask them to take it a step further and guarantee a
specific on-site warranty, both telephone and in-person response time... as well as loaner
and repair or replacement guarantees.
I have personally found that a large number of these "popular" mail order
& Internet companies SELL the "on-site" warranty via contract to other
unrelated companies in large cities. These third-party companies that get paid for taking
the contracts then hire technicians in smaller cities (100,000 or more, usually) for a
great deal less than any good technician normally makes... therefore, you (the customer)
often get the "beginner" or technician that isn't up with the latest technology,
or can't communicate with real people, or have some other "problem" that doesn't
allow them to stay busy with "REAL" paying jobs. Often, unless you are
in a high traffic area for that technician, he (or she) will have to call and
have parts shipped in, and your down time will be increased even more. There are exceptions - though
few and far between.
What you will find, if you live in a small town or more than 50 miles away from a big
city is:
| most of the companies will tell you everything is perfect - to get the sale and your
money - but won't give you a full money back guarantee if the on-site service doesn't meet
their agreement with you... or your "reasonable" expectations. Be sure you can
live with the service they can guarantee you in writing, and very probable problems with
the service if something does go wrong.
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| there may not be a technician available for your area - or the current technician
may quit the contract with this third-party at a later date. Verify the company that has
the contract, determine their size, ability to stay in business, and their happiness with
the company they are paid to support computers for. Are other options available?
What if they can't get a technician in YOUR area to deal with your
problem? These
issues should be dealt with BEFORE you spend your money on a computer system.
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| the "downtime" you are likely to experience (one to two days minimum) -
assuming you have someone that can service the system for you; assuming the main company
agrees to ship the replacement part(s) before getting the "broken" part(s). Very
few companies will do this without a credit card to guarantee getting the broken
components back. And I have heard of downtimes that have lasted MONTHS!!!
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| many companies will void the warranty if the system case is "cracked"
(opened) by anyone other than THEIR certified technicians. Any company asking you to
replace a part yourself maybe attempting to shift the responsibility to you. Be careful!
I
have heard quite a few horror stories... and a few success stories. If you choose to
accept part of this responsibility, try to get the company asking you or a local
technician of YOUR choosing, to install the replacement part(s) to:
| Reimburse you for any reasonable expenses you may have incurred (like the amount you
pay your technician for the repair);
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| Sign a document that states that you (or your tech) does NOT void their warranty...
in addition, ask them to agree to "hold you harmless" if something
"unforeseen" should go wrong so that they agree to deal with that issue under
the warranty;
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| Get the company to send you a "call tag" (it is the technical term UPS
uses for pre-paid pick ups). This means that the company with pre-pay and arrange for UPS
(or some other shipper) to pick up the bad components from you at no additional charge to
you.
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Do you have a story? I am debating whether to list some of the
"horror" stories - the towns and companies which have let the customer down...
that have violated a trust and an agreement with the customer. Possibly adding some of the
customer testimonials that have been emailed and snail mailed to me. If you have a horror story regarding
"on-site" warranty issues, please send them to me - with as much supporting
documentation as possible. If there are enough from the same company, maybe we can change
how that company deals with customers in the future. Maybe even file a class action law
suit on those companies which are really abusing their customers through faults
advertising and unfulfilled guarantees?!
Note (about computer techs): Any
technician worth their salt normally charges $35 to $150 per hour... only the type charges
less is either a beginner, a student in high-school or college, someone that has a
full-time "good" paying job, or someone that can't get enough business to
justify the price. Note: there are a few really good techs that barter, that are trying to
get their foot in the door (of a business), and there are those that are independently
wealthy (though the later is very few).
Keep in mind that most GOOD technicians LIVE... EAT, DRINK, SLEEP, and BREATH
computers... 8, 10, 12, 16, 18 or more hours a day 5 to 7 days a week. Everything else
comes second - sometimes even breathing, eating, sleeping, and showering. It is their
life, their passion, their hobby, and the way they are trying to make a living. They
didn't learn most of what they know in a school (unless it was OIT or MIT or some truly
technical institute)... they learned it in the real world by trial an error. Their
knowledge comes from experience, books, and "smart friends."
The true "nerd" doesn't make their knowledge and experience a complete
secret, they trade their knowledge with other "nerds" that have information,
tips, tricks, traps, and knowledge they don't. This is the best way one person can cover
so many different aspects of such a fast growing industry.
The Good:
Toshiba (one of the leading
notebook manufacturer's) offers 24-7 (24 hour a day, 7 days a week) telephone
technical support, and if you are "on-the-road" or away from a big city
they will actually ship you a "call-tag" (a Fed-X pick-up, at no cost) to have
your notebook shipped to their nearest service center and guarantee a return to you in
(generally 2-5 business days). They seem to have the best
warranty, although it still isn't "On-site." For $299 you can
get a three year - NO FAULT WARRANTY that covers your notebook if you dropped
it, froze it, or spilled something on it. Here's the link:
It is the absolute best warranty for
notebooks in the industry... I don't know why they don't advertise it
more, but it is real, and ONLY for their notebooks. No One
has come close to this warranty, and if you are rough on your notebooks, then
Toshiba is the ONLY way to go!
Other companies that users have reported "treated them RIGHT" (regarding
notebook computers with problems) are: Gateway, Dell, and Compaq.
I was planning to purchase a new notebook computer, November 99. I decided to do
some shopping (and investigation) and explained to each company HOW I use my
notebook (sitting open on my front seat, with a talking GPS system plugged in),
and that I have had a couple problems in the past: 1) someone pulled out in
front of me, and my notebook slammed off the dash - breaking the display; 2)
someone pulled out in front of me and I swerved out of the way, dumping Pepsi
all over the system - frying the keyboard; and 3) I accidentally forgot that I
put my notebook on top of my truck (a '99 Ford F250 SD 4x4 Off Road w/Crew Cab)
and drove off - dumping the system on the asphalt, in a mud puddle. Now, in ALL
of the instances above, Toshiba came through with flying
colors, and repaired or replaced my systems (three of them altogether) without
hassle. I did have to take it into a certified repair center, but it was
dealt with quickly and easily. For that I really like and recommend
Toshiba.
So, after relating my story to these companies that wanted my money, and
explained that I was a computer reseller and had been "in the
business" for a number of years - and sell between 6 and 50 notebooks a
year, and that I required an active matrix display SVGA or XGA (so I could see
the display in sun light), at least a 10 gig HDD (because I store massive data -
all the maps & information)... I didn't care about the processor speed, or
battery life. DVD was a plus, but not required. I didn't want to spend more than
$3,000, and here is what I found out:
Dell, by far
the hottest portable system on the market for the money. High speed processors,
an 8MB ATI Rage Pro graphics adapter, up to 75 Gigabytes of HDD, 6x DVD, and
battery life up to 10 hours. Anyhow, they were my first choice, BUT would ONLY
warranty manufacturer defects. They had no extended warranty options, besides
manufacturer defects, AND (what really topped things for me) I would have to
wait 20 to 30 days to get my notebook computer, if I paid for it right then. Oh,
no credit card... well, they refused to ship to me COD cash/cashiers check...
and my personal and/or Company check would have to clear their bank (they
estimated that would take 7 to 10 days)... and THEN they would process the
order, which would take 20 to 30 more days. Also, they would NOT give me a money
back guarantee in the event the warranty work didn't happen as stated. They gave
me a great deal of talk, and they were consistent through their customer service
managers. At one point, two of the people at Dell stated that Toshiba did NOT
have a no fault warranty. I promptly took them to the information on Toshibas
site. They recanted, and So, Dell did NOT get my money! And I really wanted to
buy a Dell - and give them a try, but I'm an impulsive buyer - to some degree.
When I plan to spend a bunch of money, I want to spend it NOW... and receive the
goods in a day or two!
Gateway, the number two
mail-order notebook company (behind Dell), bottom line, I couldn't get past
their much higher prices for less of a computer system. They wanted an arm and
leg for their systems with big hard disk drives (10 gigs or larger).
IBM ThinkPad,
small hard drives, and a high price for the systems with the larger hard drives.
Standard Warranty, nothing fancy. Nice notebook, commonly available in the
retail channel. I guess the thing that turned me away from these notebooks is
that their Active Matrix display systems are not commonly available, and
considerably more expensive. They were ruled out.
Compaq, Model
#1930 - the hard drive was only 10 gigabytes, but all of the rest of the
system was there. And, the price was under $2,500 - with a $200 no requirements
rebate. It is a real nice system, an XGA Active Matrix 14.1" display, 6x
DVD, 3-4 hour battery life, and a standard warranty. Yes, this is the one I
purchased. Why, because it would arrive the next day, and the Toshiba I wanted
was back ordered for over six weeks... and Dell wouldn't ship me one for another
month. Compaq has a warranty center here in Knoxville, where I'm living now. It
isn't as good of warranty as Toshiba has, but I needed to get a new notebook as
soon as possible.
A Real Horror Story
from Coos Bay, Oregon
The Bad:
A customer has had a great deal of trouble and continued difficulties with
an OFFICE PRO notebook computer purchased from MiniMicro (the distribution company
the customer paid for an extended
four year warranty) and ARM Computers (the
manufacturer). This was supposedly the hottest system at the time. Once he
plugged it into the docking station, it began having trouble. Intermittent lock
ups, over heating, and various other problems. When the problems were called in
to the warranty company, and he was told that no technicians were available in
the area and it would be a few days. Nearly six months, a whole bunch of
excuses, and shipping parts (they refused to ship a replacement notebook or
return his money) and the end result was that he couldn't use the docking
station (that he bought with the notebook) for extended periods of time, and
that the PCMCIA slots were also overheating and creating some problem.
Because of his continued problems, I do NOT suggest doing any business
(regarding notebook computers, in particular) with either of these companies UNLESS
you have an iron-clad WRITTEN guarantee that you are comfortable with!
MiniMicro stopped dealing with that notebook manufacturer (but that was
never verified), and they consistently blames the "other guy" for the
problem... not wanting to refund the money, or exchange the notebook computer
(although they did accept money for the 4 year extended warranty). There was
never a completely satisfactory end result for the customer. I donated a great
deal of my time and energy to help solve the problem, with little consolation
for the customers benefit.
The Moral:
Caveat Emptor (Buyer Beware) definitely applies here!
Notebook computers
and integrated systems are the only REAL problem. Not just anyone can
work on them. Most have very proprietary parts, and some require special tools
to even get into. Whenever you are buying a notebook computer or integrated
system you have to be more careful than usual!
Another thing, pay by credit card - because most credit card companies have
built in protections for their customers. Document every telephone call, every
piece of correspondence, and if the company won't follow through on their
warranty, then you might be able to return the system for a forced refund (check
with your credit card company for their individual consumer protection policies
- as each company is different). Non-integrated computers (desktop
systems) don't follow the same type of rules, or have the same type of problems, as a larger
number of people can effectively work on those type of systems.
Get as much in writing (to your satisfaction) as
possible. If the company won't put what you need in writing, then
walk-away, and go elsewhere! Or roll the dice and change losing your money,
wasting time, creating stress, and yes... loosing valuable data!
This page was last updated 02 April 2000
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